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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 20:29:42 GMT
bob it does smell of lower river despartion but the board cant just keep banning methods and hope that fish numbers will rises its not been working up 2 now the method was always assocated with fish mongers but those days are well and truely gone so it wouldnt put me of fishing the tay The only reason for bringing it back is to put more money into the boards pockets. Can not see how this will help the river. It is generaly aggreed that the seals/cormorants/goosanders are damaging the future stocks of fish and we are going to need publics help to bring any changes about. Bringing back methods that were banned when there were more fish about and extending the season so anglers can catch more fish would appear to non fishers that the good of the salmon does not realy matter, so why get rid of seals etc, It would make more sence if the board took a long hard look at what they want to do and got round the table to disscus this with others whos jobs depend on the fish. Open up and let others know what you are doing and then we would all join in to help and leave a river/s for our grandchildren. Bob
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Post by underghillie on Jul 31, 2010 20:37:50 GMT
The only reason for bringing it back is to put more money into the boards pockets. Can not see how this will help the river. It is generaly aggreed that the seals/cormorants/goosanders are damaging the future stocks of fish and we are going to need publics help to bring any changes about. Bringing back methods that were banned when there were more fish about and extending the season so anglers can catch more fish would appear to non fishers that the good of the salmon does not realy matter, so why get rid of seals etc, It would make more sence if the board took a long hard look at what they want to do and got round the table to disscus this with others whos jobs depend on the fish. Open up and let others know what you are doing and then we would all join in to help and leave a river/s for our grandchildren. Bob I'm with you on these points Bob The board needs to sort the problems not mask them Tony
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Post by skippy on Jul 31, 2010 20:47:56 GMT
It will be interesting to see the catch stats at the end of the month.Maybe those that are forever saying that the Tay's devoid of fish just might have egg on their face. S
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 20:56:34 GMT
lol . well they wont be stopping to look at any shrimp then on the lower river ;D ;D Been plenty swimming past us the last few days
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 21:11:07 GMT
it wont make a diffrence no extra fish will be killed and the lower beats will finally see that fish dont need to lie in there beats anymore as the river even in low water is still capabile of sustaning large runs that just wont to go up stream as for fish mongering i dont think any ghillie or beat would let fish be killed unnesscary [ almost all shrimp caught fish is lipped any way ] so no need to say i had to kill it [ it was bleeding nonsense] . and the fact that no one is allowed to sell there catch [ as they did in the shrimps heyday ] to make ends meet or pay for there fishing as they did in those days all those anglers are long gone and opions have finally been changed to the need of conservation of the salmon ... if it brings back a few rods to the lower beats . well its more money for the board to invest in the long term future pf the river and keeps a few more hotel and restraunts in buisness that can only be good
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Post by underghillie on Jul 31, 2010 21:34:45 GMT
Almondmouth 44 this wk! Do they need the shrimp?
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 21:40:27 GMT
at the price they charge it should be 144 for the week . ;D Almondmouth 44 this wk! Do they need the shrimp?
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 21:51:03 GMT
is that $400 a day . or fish for the week . as £400 a day would seem like a reduction . at the price they charge it should be 144 for the week . ;D be 400 for the week next week ;D
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 21:55:23 GMT
ghilling must be paying well at moment if you think almoud mouth is cheap at any time of the year ;D ;D ;D is that $400 a day . or fish for the week . as £400 a day would seem like a reduction . nice and cheap during july ;D
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 22:11:22 GMT
i was offerd a few days many moons ago . and still know people that take there fishing down there . but when it comes into the hunderd of pounds for a cast that a local will walk onto after your day and pay a fraction of the cost . its not for me ... and only because i dont have the money .. if i did i would buy the tay and make it the rightful owner of the best salmon river in the world as it should be ...
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 22:28:13 GMT
heres a novel idael ... as all the beats taking part have to be fully ghilled why dont all fish that are caught put into the hatchery for next year ...... and that would stop all this silly out of season brood stock fishing and just let the river be at one with nature during the close season
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 22:38:59 GMT
why would they be all dead . they have oxygenated tanks heres a novel idael ... as all the beats taking part have to be fully ghilled why dont all fish that are caught put into the hatchery for next year ...... and that would stop all this silly out of season brood stock fishing and just let the river be at one with nature during the close season cause they would be deed by the autumn
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Post by love2fish on Jul 31, 2010 22:44:06 GMT
they do it on many other lesser rivers than the tay .. im sure it would work better than ripping fish from there almost made redds why would they be all dead . they have oxygenated tanks needs more than that to keep a wild fish in captivity
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Post by stinger on Aug 1, 2010 6:27:12 GMT
dont see what all the fuss isabout its onlt a tiral and all fish to be returned . the tay is a big river and it wouldnt spoil the pools and they might not get the condtions for it anyway you never know this could be a good thing for the river long term L2F, would you feel the same if you were all booked up with the intention of fly fishing only to find out that the goal posts have changed and that your chosen beat will now be subject to raping by shrimp and/or prawn? Both methods are mentioned in the lease, "it is illegal to fish with shrimp, prawn or any part thereof...." and I am sure that will be the case on ever lease up and down the river. This should have been sorted b4 the start of the season b4 taking non-refundable deposits. Dave mentions the lower river pays 85% of the rates. As far as I undestand rates are calculated on a pro rata basis on fish catches, so whats the problem? Increase the fish catches and the rates will go up too. You pay to go fishing, not as a gaurantee to catch fish, you pay yer money and take yer chance! There are rainbow fisheries for that.
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Post by madkeen on Aug 1, 2010 9:03:24 GMT
Its hard to believe that the Board would even ask for this to be re-introduced on a 'trial' basis. What they seem to have lost site of is that the Tay is a brand and if you market it properly you will get rods returning year on year for the experience. If certain lower beats are unlet during prime time(and thats what this is about) then obviously they have to look at their prices. Someone on the other forum said the Tay will never be fly-only, maybe not but that is the future of salmon fishing, look how many rods turn up with a spinning rod these days. The only press most of us read about is doom and gloom via forums well why don't the board produce positive press to counter this and if they don't know how get on the phone to the Dee as theyre bloody good at it and entice the Scandi's over before their season starts.
I would like to know this 'if' the lower beats catches increase but other beats bookings suffer through what they think is down to the re-introduction of this bait of olde will they be compensated?
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