hagar
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Post by hagar on Dec 23, 2009 21:37:25 GMT
1.Is there not a fourth way? Increase rod speed, by altering rod speed it is possible to cast a 5 weight line on a 10 weight rod or a 10 weight line on a 5 weight rod. 2.I sometimes wonder how some anglers manage to catch the salmon at the neck of the pool, when it is lying only 1 yard from the bank, do they rush off and buy an extra heavy line to cover this fish? 1. From above " As I see it , and I've no doubt that there'll be other opinions/ options , there are at least 3 ways of loading a rod to it's optimum." 2. Stand further back? ;D Surely you can do better than that , Malcolm ?
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Post by Williegunn on Dec 23, 2009 21:39:49 GMT
Wae aye, I divvnt no like are you a taxidomiterist? ;D Its ma first post an all so if Im a cannae bit cheeky put it doon ta me being a Toon army squadee ;D ;D. I wus oonlee sayin' the other day tha heads geeze the best tight loops an ya cannae beat ha tight loop geddin ;D ;D Could someone please translate this into english. The closest I could get was Hello, I did not know you were a taxidermist. It is my first post if I'm cheeky put it down to me supporting a lower league team from England. The other day I was only saying that shooting heads give the best tight loops and you cannot beat a tight loop. Geddin has me beat.
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Post by Williegunn on Dec 23, 2009 21:44:05 GMT
2. Stand further back? ;D Surely you can do better than that , Malcolm ? I've tried standing further back but I cannot reach the keyboard.
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hagar
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Post by hagar on Dec 23, 2009 21:49:10 GMT
I've tried standing further back but I cannot reach the keyboard. ;D ;D
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Post by underghillie on Dec 23, 2009 23:00:59 GMT
Wae aye, I divvnt no like are you a taxidomiterist? ;D Its ma first post an all so if Im a cannae bit cheeky put it doon ta me being a Toon army squadee ;D ;D. I wus oonlee sayin' the other day tha heads geeze the best tight loops an ya cannae beat ha tight loop geddin ;D ;D Could someone please translate this into english. The closest I could get was Hello, I did not know you were a taxidermist. It is my first post if I'm cheeky put it down to me supporting a lower leauge team from England. The other day I was only saying that shooting heads give the best tight loops and you cannot beat a tight loop. Geddin has me beat. lower leauge team ;D ;D ;D Geddin has me beat aswell
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 4:37:23 GMT
It seems to me there is a bit of confusion over the benefits of using a Shooting Head on smaller waters like the Esk and in tighter casting situations. I know I find it all the technical stuff a bit overwhelming when all I want to do is go fishing.
Mind you, it would be no fun at all if we did not get a range of opinions on this so here are my concerns/worries/understanding on Shooting Heads for smaller rivers.
1. The use of the Shooting Head on smaller tighter rivers is designed to overcome issues with a spey Line or DT or WF. It means to me that you need to fine tune your set up right through to the leader and makes sure it works for you in a given situation.
2. If you are fishing from a heavily weeded bank - consider using a Line Tray. If nothing else, you will get a few strange looks but it may well do the trick
3. I am not so sure about using casts like the Snap T on a quiet part of a river where the flow is gentle. I think this could possibly disturb the water - but am very willing to hear other opinions about this and be educated on this.
4. In smaller rivers, I tend to focus a bit more on individual lies therefore I would tend to cast to them with a bit more care than if I was searching the water on a bigger river. It means to me that my first cast has to be my best cast if using a Shooting Head. I don't want line shudder etc or any of the normal things that happen when my timing is just a wee bit out. So making sure my casting is better, less sloppy etc is a must for me
5. I can understand Williegunn's point about standing back a bit so as to reach a lie with the optimum loading on the rod. Can be a Tricky if wading with trees all around etc, however.
6. With a shorter rod - say a 13ft one rated #8 or 9 - I would be inclined to use a shorter heavier head than a longer lighter one. Percentage wise for me, it would mean I get more first casts right than wrong.
7. Using a Single handed 10ft approx rod with a Shooting Head is something for me to try but I do not think my current rod's action is so suitable for Spey Casting a Shooting Head. It is more of a firm actioned rod for longer overhead casts. Does this matter much?
7. There is also the added benefit of travelling light with a range of Heads and tips in your jacket you can quickly change depth as you work along a Beat and you avoid carrying spare spools etc.
None of the above means my #9 Windcutter Multi Tip and DT 9 Cortland Floater are getting their jotters just yet, though.
tweedbunnet
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Post by Williegunn on Dec 28, 2009 10:07:19 GMT
5. I can understand Williegunn's point about standing back a bit so as to reach a lie with the optimum loading on the rod. Can be a Tricky if wading with trees all around etc, however. tweedbunnet Mr Bunnet, you have totally mis-understood the point I was trying to make, I was not suggesting I stood further back but was in fact suggesting quite the reverse; it is quite easy to load a rod without having the whole head outside the tip. (It was Hagar who advocated standing further back.)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 11:56:55 GMT
WG
It would not be the first time my limited brain misunderstood a lengthy techincal post. So my apologies for mixing you up with yon gadgie fae the west (Hagar) who is now a true believer and helped me make up my mind about using SH's more frequently.
While I totally accept that casting a #5 line from a #10 weight rod works (done it myself in the past with a DT #6 weight) I would struggle to believe it would work as well in the context of a Shooting Head using a short Spey Cast.
But if you have managed this, then I tip my hat to you.
tweedbunnet
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Post by heron on Jan 3, 2010 2:07:44 GMT
I couldn't vote on it, I use everything pretty much. DTs, long/mid/shortbellies, shooting heads, skagit, scandit and singlehand. did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, I don't use full sink longlines...they never caught on over here.
lately I'm on a scandi jag. true Skagit weather hasn't hit us in the face yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 3:58:20 GMT
Heron
Scotland is under a blanket of snow just now. I make it that we have had snow on the ground for 17 days now in Edinburgh which has got to be a record. Could lasyt a couple of more weeks they say.
So maybe we will be using Skagit lines a good bit more since we seem to be adopting your climate as well as your fishing methods
tweeddbunnet
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