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Post by mdh on Dec 3, 2009 18:48:11 GMT
Been asked to make a few flies for a friend at work and tied two versions of a golden willie gunn and wondered in general what would people prefer to fish with?  or  interested to hear people's thoughts. Cheers Matt |
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Post by kingfisher on Dec 3, 2009 18:56:16 GMT
Like the top one as it matchs the traditional colours better.  kf |
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Post by builnacraig on Dec 3, 2009 19:01:31 GMT
Top one. The bottom one is something else, not a GWG.
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Post by mdh on Dec 3, 2009 19:08:57 GMT
Top one. The bottom one is something else, not a GWG. BnC Its dressed in exactly the same way, golden body, yellow, red and black wing. The difficutly of the fur is that its harder to mix the different colours. |
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Post by ballingall512 on Dec 5, 2009 13:19:27 GMT
Gold willie gunn should be mixed yellow orange wing with black over  I like them both but would rather fish the top one, it would look nice with a black hackle too, I looks better with the cone in place over a hackle Will still catch fish though |
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Post by macd on Dec 5, 2009 20:53:15 GMT
i dont think there is a right or wrong, just personal preference. neither my cup of tea i would have a trad gold willie gunn on a slipstream tube my alternative would be a built wing like the willie gunn conehead shown elsewhere on here. thanks for sharing- its what makes flytying |
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Post by mdh on Dec 7, 2009 19:04:17 GMT
Gold willie gunn should be mixed yellow orange wing with black over I like them both but would rather fish the top one, it would look nice with a black hackle too, I looks better with the cone in place over a hackle Will still catch fish though That was a bit of a school boy error with the colours... However yes I agree with the bit about the hackle the cone didn't fit so well with the bulk thats built up with the bucktail. i dont think there is a right or wrong, just personal preference. neither my cup of tea i would have a trad gold willie gunn on a slipstream tube my alternative would be a built wing like the willie gunn conehead shown elsewhere on here. thanks for sharing- its what makes flytying I think I'll be using slipstream tubes from now on for these types of tubes. The eumer brass tubes and coneheads are nice and heavy and will definately get them down in cold water. I've got two days lined up on the Dee for the second week of the season. |
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Post by sloggi on Dec 7, 2009 20:52:12 GMT
Matt - the top fly looks fine and will fish well enough. The second fly will not swim very well due to the softness of the materials - use those materials where you "build" a wing where other layers will support one another. I've been there - the second fly will "clump" and disappoint you when it's swimming. However, the real poitive here is your ability to apply proportions. Getting the proportions right on a fly is the most difficult aspect of fly-tying and you've got it right with these two. You also have a fine blend of colours in the top one - very subtle. I note you're fishing the Dee in Feb - don't go without a black/yellow brass tube as it's a must for spring on the Dee as others will no doubt note. Apologies if any of the above offends you but I'm not a "gr8 fly m8" protagonist  |
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Post by mdh on Dec 8, 2009 9:10:27 GMT
Matt - the top fly looks fine and will fish well enough. The second fly will not swim very well due to the softness of the materials - use those materials where you "build" a wing where other layers will support one another. I've been there - the second fly will "clump" and disappoint you when it's swimming. However, the real poitive here is your ability to apply proportions. Getting the proportions right on a fly is the most difficult aspect of fly-tying and you've got it right with these two. You also have a fine blend of colours in the top one - very subtle. I note you're fishing the Dee in Feb - don't go without a black/yellow brass tube as it's a must for spring on the Dee as others will no doubt note. Apologies if any of the above offends you but I'm not a "gr8 fly m8" protagonist Sloggi, I actually want somebody to "rip" my flies apart bit by bit and tell me every little thing that is wrong! so your comments are most welcome. It was just an experiment the second option. I'll probably do a few templedog style ones as well. I've got a couple of 2inch black and yello tubes for the occasion specially. cheers matt |
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Post by sloggi on Dec 8, 2009 10:31:23 GMT
Do you mean 2" tubes or 2" total length? For the Dee, at normal height, I tend to start with a 1 1/4" tube. Would only use 2"+ in high water.
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Post by mdh on Dec 8, 2009 14:27:08 GMT
Do you mean 2" tubes or 2" total length? For the Dee, at normal height, I tend to start with a 1 1/4" tube. Would only use 2"+ in high water. I've got 1" brass tubes and the whole thing is about 2" long. For your 1 1/4" tubes how long do you make the whole thing? cheers Matt |
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Post by sloggi on Dec 8, 2009 19:20:56 GMT
Do you mean 2" tubes or 2" total length? For the Dee, at normal height, I tend to start with a 1 1/4" tube. Would only use 2"+ in high water. I've got 1" brass tubes and the whole thing is about 2" long. For your 1 1/4" tubes how long do you make the whole thing? cheers Matt Total length is approx 2" |
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Post by klops on Dec 8, 2009 23:36:40 GMT
I will fish first
In second if you will put this soft wing on the tail become Snelda.
Well know pattern and somebody say that good one.
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