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Post by weefrankie on Jan 1, 2011 14:44:03 GMT
Changed a fav trout daytime sea trout fly here Gave spey treatment waiting for longer more traditional spey hackles to be delivered also bit mean on th mallard wing but first time i have tried mallard in reverse loop tying  |
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Post by salmonshrimp on Jan 1, 2011 15:10:56 GMT
Changed a fav trout daytime sea trout fly here Gave spey treatment waiting for longer more traditional spey hackles to be delivered also bit mean on th mallard wing but first time i have tried mallard in reverse loop tying The hackles on that look fine to me a bonny flee again I like the varnished finish. For me the wing tips on this particular trout fly should reach just short of the end of the tippets but no longer |
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Post by chernobylant on Jan 1, 2011 15:55:44 GMT
Very nice fly, be a dead cert for seatroot.
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Post by weefrankie on Jan 1, 2011 16:56:38 GMT
In my research the wing tip ends about end of body,and low tent hugging like sedge wing over body
Hackles were tied in by base at rear and long flowing
I am waiting to get select schlappen which i am going to burn to make spey sub
Coque is supposedly even better
Also coot skin for hackles
And have just got a scource for heron that is a different speicies from the protected ones but will chech that out first
Dyed pheasant hackles in irish shrimps can be used but have a steep hackle shaft taper keep for smaller size flies can also do glasso type wings with these hackles
Blue eared pheaseht hackles expensive
Dont like the look of whitting spey just personal thing thought it may be alright at first
This is what i have found out only and if anyone can pass on advice or correct me on the right path please do i wamtnt to do traditional speys true to there pst tiers as near as i can
Fly head
Loads of anti clockwise bobbin spinning to unravel thread twist lay flat thread wraps three coats of thin layers hard as nails
Tip get small large mouthed screwtop bottle i have a couple of loonhead cement ones(stuff is garbage)washout thourghly pour varnish in keep varnish level as high as you can with small marbles or ball bearings to minimise air gap varnish lasts lot longer just plop bearing or marble in as level drops,when used wash out bottle and marbles bearings start again
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Post by builnacraig on Jan 1, 2011 18:05:18 GMT
Nice fly WF, starting to take a liking to that style myself
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Post by ballingall512 on Jan 1, 2011 22:18:34 GMT
Nice looking fly WF
have you tried using the Bird fur range for spey hackles??
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Post by weefrankie on Jan 1, 2011 22:34:23 GMT
Not yet, trying to get eventually to as near the traditional as i can,just learning this style practice and play
even hought things like connemara black cock robin w/cock mixed would be iteresting clones march brown
i know a guy who used to take a fair share of salmon on a march brown tied on a dropper
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Post by ballingall512 on Jan 1, 2011 22:46:41 GMT
They are great spey hackles.
I'll dig out the web site I get mine from in the states. and PM you.
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Post by weefrankie on Jan 1, 2011 23:02:31 GMT
good man stick wee picture os cape or hackles up lets see
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Post by ballingall512 on Jan 2, 2011 14:42:04 GMT
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Post by weefrankie on Jan 2, 2011 15:20:02 GMT
Thanks Dave Interesting how do fibres look to you in running water,shed load of materials to buy,and i have about a garage worths just now  |
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Post by ballingall512 on Jan 2, 2011 15:26:33 GMT
Thanks Dave Interesting how do fibres look to you in running water,shed load of materials to buy,and i have about a garage worths just now it really depends on nthe hackles themselves, as to how they look in a cuurent. The bird fur is a bit softer and really moves well, but can end up sitting quite flat in a faster current. The whiting spey hackles as with schlappen are a wee bit stronger so tend to hold their shape better in the water. I like my spey flies tied with the hackles trailing well past the hook point, tied like that they really swim well in the water. Dave. |
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Post by ballingall512 on Jan 2, 2011 15:31:28 GMT
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Post by ballingall512 on Jan 2, 2011 15:39:05 GMT
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Post by weefrankie on Jan 2, 2011 23:19:51 GMT
sorry Dave got confusamacated there got the links saved how do you get on bringing feathers from states ,know about vat etc threshhold and handling if unlucky but i have had companies wanting$50 for vetineary or import certificates to send to uk needless never got the buisness
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