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Post by salmonshrimp on Dec 29, 2010 15:13:23 GMT
There seems to be 2 schools of thought regarding the type of hackles used in salmon flies, especially shrimp patterns.
Some like a soft henny hackle as they feel it gives more movement in the water.
Others like a stiff fibred hackle for exactly the same reason.
For me it's always been the latter as I fish fairly streamy water and find that a hen hackle would be pushed flat with the force of the water. A stiff fibre however fights the current and flickers more than a soft hackle.
What do you guys think
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Post by madkeen on Dec 29, 2010 15:20:26 GMT
I use the 2 types of hackles you describe Lawrence in different water types but one of my favourite hackle types is the dyed silver badger which is a bit of a half way house neither too springy or webby and when combined with a stiff cock hackle as in Macd's shrimp patterns I think its a winning combo.
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Post by salmonshrimp on Dec 29, 2010 18:57:14 GMT
I use the 2 types of hackles you describe Lawrence in different water types but one of my favourite hackle types is the dyed silver badger which is a bit of a half way house neither too springy or webby and when combined with a stiff cock hackle as in Macd's shrimp patterns I think its a winning combo. Aye Alan I suppose if your winding 2 hackles a combination would work okay. What type of water would you use the soft hackles on.
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Post by madkeen on Dec 29, 2010 20:39:05 GMT
I use the 2 types of hackles you describe Lawrence in different water types but one of my favourite hackle types is the dyed silver badger which is a bit of a half way house neither too springy or webby and when combined with a stiff cock hackle as in Macd's shrimp patterns I think its a winning combo. Aye Alan I suppose if your winding 2 hackles a combination would work okay. What type of water would you use the soft hackles on. If it was only a hen hackle and wanted to fish the fly slowly it would be sluggish water but look at the way the scandis tie there t/dogs with a mix of soft marabou and cock hackle to get a mix of movements. Are you talking about shrimp patterns?
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Post by salmonshrimp on Dec 29, 2010 21:33:41 GMT
Aye Alan I suppose if your winding 2 hackles a combination would work okay. What type of water would you use the soft hackles on. If it was only a hen hackle and wanted to fish the fly slowly it would be sluggish water but look at the way the scandis tie there t/dogs with a mix of soft marabou and cock hackle to get a mix of movements. Are you talking about shrimp patterns? I suppose I'm thinking mainly of shrimp, cascade and allys type patterns
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Post by macd on Dec 29, 2010 21:57:04 GMT
lawrence- i would go with regular cock capes and use hen on the smallest irons.
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Post by salmonshrimp on Dec 30, 2010 20:12:07 GMT
lawrence- i would go with regular cock capes and use hen on the smallest irons. Aye Ross regular cock capes for me sometimes I throw in a few long strands of hair for movement in small sizes. Just like the white hair in this fly, just a few strands top and bottom
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Post by madkeen on Dec 30, 2010 20:30:28 GMT
Nice shrimpy fly Lawrence.
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Post by salmonshrimp on Dec 30, 2010 21:18:58 GMT
Nice shrimpy fly Lawrence. Aye Alan thanks it's been a pretty successful one too
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Post by underghillie on Dec 30, 2010 21:37:20 GMT
I just use whatever hackle i think looks best to me on whatever flee I'm tying at the time.
I think i have said some where on here before that people worry to much about movement in a flee, if they are that worried they should work their flee.
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