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Post by builnacraig on Apr 30, 2011 19:58:34 GMT
Kmacc is a nice chap, I know that, but whats that got to do with it?
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Post by ptg on Apr 30, 2011 20:08:46 GMT
Cant believe they are trying to claim that as a salmon..... surely mut be a photo slip up there..?? the picture is of undoubtedly a sea trout ( or a troot that's been soaking in the bottom of the boat all day! ) bonnie troot mind! in this case the photo is pretty conclusive!! its a shame really, an angling association making such schoolboy mistakes is nothing short of sad!
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Post by underghillie on Apr 30, 2011 20:13:01 GMT
Its a feckin troot I'll tell ye why there is nae Salmon in the system cause they keep killing them the feckin idiots, also the same idiots come across to Loch Tay and kill our Salmon now they have none left to kill on their own system To be fair Tony, surely the Loch Tay boys have been killing fish quite nicely on their own for plenty of years before numbers in the Lomond system decreased? The Loch Tay boys as you put it are mostly from The Lomond area and have always had the i've payed my money and will do as i like They come to our Loch as our's has fish in it before their's, then start fishing their Loch when fish are harder to catch come the end of April. Just think of that lovely 12 pounder you caught and released at Murthly swimming into Loch Tay and getting caught by one o they Lomond Bandits
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Post by rubberwellie on Apr 30, 2011 20:26:26 GMT
BnC, I got the impression from kmaccs earlier posts that he is an optimist and wants to believe the association line that fish are there and the future aint looking bad. He also stated that the first salmon of the season had been landed, I was happy to have my own opinion on the matter and let him have his without disputing the point. However a few others replied with their thoughts anyway whilst I was typing up my post. Forget it.
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Post by hagar on Apr 30, 2011 20:28:53 GMT
It could be a trout, big trout off the loch are fairly common this early in the season. Hard to tell from the photo but if it is a salmon well done! Regardless, the time to judge will be when the seasons finished. However I notice that all the lost fish are described as springers, smacks of desperation in my opinion. Lost fish are part and parcel of fishing, anglers i.e potential customers will judge the system on the number of salmon landed irrespective of what spin is put on it. I had a spey casting lesson a couple of weeks back on that same small stretch of river that shows a solitary fly fisherman wading in low water, I saw 4 anglers not including myself or my instructor in a two hour period. Not exactly deserted.Regardless of angling pressure I will make my own judgements on the number of fish my mates catch, guys that are good anglers and will be out on the loch every Saturday as well as on the Leven and Endrick during the week when water conditions are favourable, guys that know the water and who will catch fish if they're there. If they do well and overall numbers are low then great I personally will be happy to fish but if they hammer it and struggle then the writing really will be on the wall until drastic improvements are made.To insinuate that there is a lack of landed salmon due to a lack of anglers is a bit rich, maybe we would be better off looking inwards and asking why these anglers are voting with their feet? One fish is a start, but its deid noo and thats not gonna help... It certainly is a trout , and hopefully a brown trout. One wouldn't like to think of the Chairperson publishing a photo of a dead seatrout before the 1st of May. Unless I'm very much mistaken , the pictured angler is fishing in water at " weekend level " and not summer low. At this time of year , and at weekend level , you'd expect to see far more than one angler on just that stretch alone , never mind on practically the whole river. Perhaps they were all watching the " Wedding " This angler has fished the Leven for the last 11 years , and has averaged 8 fish per season from it. Last year's total for no reduction in hours fished ? A BIG FAT 0 Seatrout caught fishing through several nights in good conditions and with favourable tides ? ANOTHER BIG FAT 0 The system is on it's knees.
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Post by hagar on Apr 30, 2011 20:32:43 GMT
, I got the impression from kmaccs earlier posts that he is an optimist He may well be , but I also hear that he has a Tuesday appointment to have his tongue surgically removed from the inside of his cheek.
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Post by rubberwellie on Apr 30, 2011 20:39:17 GMT
Tony, not all the Lomond boys chap all their fish, although lots do. I know of a couple of Lomond boys who have had 8 off Loch Tay this year and returned them all. Some people like a day out on the water as opposed to river fishing and you cant really fish Loch Lomond till mid April at the earliest whereas they can be on the Tay from late Jan with a decent chance of a fish.
The Tay tails off around April / May which is when the Lomond usually starts to fish.
You are correct in saying that some will kill all they catch, Lomond boys and Tay boys alike. However some people dont even own computers never mind join forums and look at different websites and blogs (ie get educated and realise whats happening). To stop people like these killing all their salmon rules have to change, associations and clubs have to set an example and educate their members and people should be made an example of if thats what it comes to.
Until these changes are made we're pissing in the wind.
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Post by strathglass on Apr 30, 2011 20:43:10 GMT
The Loch Tay boys as you put it are mostly from The Lomond area and have always had the i've payed my money and will do as i like They come to our Loch as our's has fish in it before their's, then start fishing their Loch when fish are harder to catch come the end of April. Just think of that lovely 12 pounder you caught and released at Murthly swimming into Loch Tay and getting caught by one o they Lomond Bandits I have often wondered about the TDSFB attitude to Loch Tay and Faskally for that matter, the river beats all seem to have more or less adopted C+R whereas evidence from both the lochs seems different. Anyway I guess that's a different debate for another thread...
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Post by rubberwellie on Apr 30, 2011 20:44:00 GMT
It will be very interesting to see what the results will be for the smolt program, 24000 smolts should make a huge difference to the future of the system. Sounded just like an association man. Silly me! ;D
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Post by hagar on Apr 30, 2011 20:46:08 GMT
Sounded just like an association man. ;D
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Post by ballingall512 on Apr 30, 2011 22:06:13 GMT
Just seen this post ;D ;D ;D ;D brilliant... nice to see forrox getting caught in the loch so early ;D ;D 100% ferox trout salmon..... i think not
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Post by sunrayshadow on Apr 30, 2011 22:16:00 GMT
Like most of the other replys its a troot for me.
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Post by scanny on Apr 30, 2011 22:16:15 GMT
I'm surprised, I've only heard few "everybody else is getting Lomond Salmon". There must have been a prolific run for a good few thousand to get lost up the Clyde last year
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Post by lomond on May 1, 2011 10:07:14 GMT
Loch Lomond gets a run of big Sea Trout in the spring and that is one of them.
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Post by skippy on May 1, 2011 16:11:08 GMT
DITTO ! Skippy Attachments:
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