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Post by grahamfyfe on Jul 24, 2011 9:47:54 GMT
Have anybody had any problems with the Freestone wader from simms had two pairs last about four month then they begin to leak through the seams at the crotch.
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Post by cascade on Jul 24, 2011 10:46:36 GMT
They sound like a load of bollacks to me! ;D
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Post by carbisdale on Jul 24, 2011 13:26:39 GMT
Mine too have similar symptoms resulting in wet knackers. I can't really complain though as i've had two and a half seasons use from them (which includes eight months daily use) with the exceptions of sundays of course.
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Post by diverdave on Jul 24, 2011 17:19:08 GMT
I keep copious notes on all the waders we repair and i see a fair few of these.
Typically these waders leak at the crotch / bum seam, and at the sock to wader join. We have also seen a few go at the knees but this is far less common.
A leak on the bum seam can be an indication that the waders are too small for the angler, as this is a strain point, and if the angler also has a leak at the back of the heel on the sock join then this is a sure sign that the seams are being put under strain by the angler. There are details of how to correctly size your waders on my website.
Equally we see crotch leaks at the front with these, indeed many waders makes and types and this tends not to be a particular strain point (in most anglers!!!!)
Wader seams could be made to almost never leak, I wonder what the average life span of a pair of waders actually is?
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Post by grahamfyfe on Jul 24, 2011 18:29:14 GMT
Cheers for replies guys.
I have emailed sportfish to see what they are going to do about it two pairs in less than a year think I will ask for a different manufacturer.
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Post by stinger on Jul 24, 2011 19:05:20 GMT
Que a cocky reply from stinger ;D ;D Good play on words, then again your not that bright ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by madkeen on Jul 24, 2011 19:30:12 GMT
I keep copious notes on all the waders we repair and i see a fair few of these. Typically these waders leak at the crotch / bum seam, and at the sock to wader join. We have also seen a few go at the knees but this is far less common. A leak on the bum seam can be an indication that the waders are too small for the angler, as this is a strain point, and if the angler also has a leak at the back of the heel on the sock join then this is a sure sign that the seams are being put under strain by the angler. There are details of how to correctly size your waders on my website. Equally we see crotch leaks at the front with these, indeed many waders makes and types and this tends not to be a particular strain point (in most anglers!!!!) Wader seams could be made to almost never leak, I wonder what the average life span of a pair of waders actually is? Dave I would think most waders are lucky if they last a season before they start to leak somehwere and we normally just patch them up and make do for another season before we give up on them! |
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Post by underghillie on Jul 24, 2011 19:35:24 GMT
Simms G3's had them for 5 seasons just started to leak this year, not true they leaked 2 seasons ago and i stuck them in the washing machine to clean them and they never leaked again until this season, tried the washing machine again but it didnay work this time.
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Post by diverdave on Jul 24, 2011 20:29:40 GMT
From my own experience wader material lasts years and seams lasts months. Some delaminate and perish but most of the better brands last well
Seams last about a year in most cases and socks should last years but often do not.
My own waders after treatment are still going well after 5 years, and once treated we really dont get problems with wader seams, they still puncture but the seams - one of the major leak points should never give problems again.
1% of the waders we repair leak after treatment, and all that is required is another treatment. However in most cases, it is a pin hole or two that is the issue.
To date we have never had a wader seam we have treated leak, and this should continue as it should be the strongest part of the wader after we are finshed with it.
I have had two waders in that were totally porous after washing machine treatment, so as i dont know much about it would not recommend it, some folks seem to have no problems with it, others destroy their waders.
cheers
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Post by tenet on Jul 25, 2011 9:06:09 GMT
So perhaps Dave one should buy a pair of budget waders and send them to you for "seaming" prior to usage  |
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Post by rubberwellie on Jul 25, 2011 10:48:59 GMT
Are Simms not supposed to provide a warranty with their waders meaning that within reason you can return them if they leak and they will replace them if found to be defective (obviously not applicable if you've had 5 years good use from them).
I bought a pair of Freestone waders which I've only worn twice as I work overseas, maybe I should also look into getting the seams treated.
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Post by grahamfyfe on Jul 25, 2011 21:08:39 GMT
Sportfish are going to replace my waders after speaking to simms today so happy days 3rd time lucky
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